[But there was an offer for the Cakewalk project to open a Patty Griffin tour, so Ramos enlisted the rest of the Griffin band to help him pull off the sound. Still, there had to be taped augmentation to fully create the LP mood.] After a show in St. Louis a few people came up to me afterward and said how much they liked it and I asked if it bothered them at all that we were using loops and computers and they said, 'Huh?' They couldn't tell, ... After that, I stopped talking about it. Michael Ramos