It was an effective p.r. effort by the Cowen group, I don't think there's any doubt about that. All things being equal, we wouldn't have gone to a fifth bowl. ... Although we were moving in an evolutionary way toward more inclusion, whether we would have gotten to this point, I doubt it. I think we were pushed to this point.  -   Jim Delany     Quotes
It was an effective p.r. effort by the Cowen group, I don't think there's any doubt about that. All things being equal, we wouldn't have gone to a fifth bowl. ... Although we were moving in an evolutionary way toward more inclusion, whether we would have gotten to this point, I doubt it. I think we were pushed to this point. Jim Delany
 Doubt