It (the sex scenes) was not for shock value. I think it was to tell the truth. I think a lot of what we see on TV portrays gay people as eunuchs or clowns, or as victims of AIDS, or being punished for being sexual or tortured teens. We're not doing any of that. Ron Cowen
Motivational, Inspirational, Funny Quotes
![[It's clearly a sore topic with both men.] We're either gay-bashed by gay people or we're totally ignored by the gay press, ... Younger gay people seem to love the show; they don't have a problem with it. It's middle-aged gay men who seem to have a big issue with this show. They don't want other people knowing what they've done. - Ron Cowen Quotes](/pic/img/img.php?text=W0l0J3MgY2xlYXJseSBhIHNvcmUgdG9waWMgd2l0aCBib3RoIG1lbi5dIFdlJ3JlIGVpdGhlciBnYXktYmFzaGVkIGJ5IGdheSBwZW9wbGUgb3Igd2UncmUgdG90YWxseSBpZ25vcmVkIGJ5IHRoZSBnYXkgcHJlc3MsIC4uLiBZb3VuZ2VyIGdheSBwZW9wbGUgc2VlbSB0byBsb3ZlIHRoZSBzaG93OyB0aGV5IGRvbid0IGhhdmUgYSBwcm9ibGVtIHdpdGggaXQuIEl0J3MgbWlkZGxlLWFnZWQgZ2F5IG1lbiB3aG8gc2VlbSB0byBoYXZlIGEgYmlnIGlzc3VlIHdpdGggdGhpcyBzaG93LiBUaGV5IGRvbid0IHdhbnQgb3RoZXIgcGVvcGxlIGtub3dpbmcgd2hhdCB0aGV5J3ZlIGRvbmUuIA==&author=ICBSb24gQ293ZW4gICAg&num=7 "[It's clearly a sore topic with both men.] We're either gay-bashed by gay people or we're totally ignored by the gay press, ... Younger gay people seem to love the show; they don't have a problem with it. It's middle-aged gay men who seem to have a big issue with this show. They don't want other people knowing what they've done. - Ron Cowen Quotes")
![[Showtime agreed, and Cowen and Lipman took full advantage of that carnal carte blanche from the beginning: In Episode1, Brian's deflowering of Justin is explicitly rendered.] We felt that was a very political statement, ... because as a gay person, I grew up seeing straight people in movies, in R-rated movies, making out, having sex, but I never saw gay people doing it. I said to Dan, `Well, it's our turn.' - Ron Cowen Quotes](/pic/img/img.php?text=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&author=ICBSb24gQ293ZW4gICAg&num=9 "[Showtime agreed, and Cowen and Lipman took full advantage of that carnal carte blanche from the beginning: In Episode1, Brian's deflowering of Justin is explicitly rendered.] We felt that was a very political statement, ... because as a gay person, I grew up seeing straight people in movies, in R-rated movies, making out, having sex, but I never saw gay people doing it. I said to Dan, `Well, it's our turn.' - Ron Cowen Quotes")
![[Series with political content tend to age badly, and Cowen and Lipman know a thing or two about dated television -- the men, who began their work and home lives together in 1971 at a playwrights' conference, wrote An Early Frost, the first TV movie about AIDS, which aired in 1985.] You never know if something's going to hold up or fall apart in 20 years, ... It will mark a certain point in time. I hope as time goes on it will be seen as accurate. - Ron Cowen Quotes](/pic/img/img.php?text=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&author=ICBSb24gQ293ZW4gICAg&num=2 "[Series with political content tend to age badly, and Cowen and Lipman know a thing or two about dated television -- the men, who began their work and home lives together in 1971 at a playwrights' conference, wrote An Early Frost, the first TV movie about AIDS, which aired in 1985.] You never know if something's going to hold up or fall apart in 20 years, ... It will mark a certain point in time. I hope as time goes on it will be seen as accurate. - Ron Cowen Quotes")
