[Wickman] has never told me -- and I think he has the kind of relationship with me that he could -- he's never told me or complained to me or said anything to me which indicated he was leaving for any other reason except that he wanted to retire. I extended him beyond the mandatory retirement age of 57 so he could stay, ... Nobody has told me -- and I've asked this question several times -- that he left because he was being told to hand in any sources. Louis Freeh